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Free Will Defence improves our help for the suffering and the poor?
The free will defence is an endeavour to shift the blame for evil and suffering from God to humanity. Its starting point is the alleged fact that there is no love unless it is freely given. If you are forced to love, then the love given is not yours. The love is not from you. Its not your own. So you have to be free to be able to love and freedom means being able to choose evil. God made us free for he wants us to love him and one another. We have misused this free will and caused all the suffering and sinning that are around us. They are not God's doing but ours.


What are the reasons that might attract us to accepting such a doctrine?


Believers say first of all it is true.  But it makes accusations and where is the proof that we are to blame for evil not God?  What is the point of belief in a nice God if denying innocent until proven guilty is the cost?


Believers say secondly it encourages us to battle suffering in others for free will though it can be abused is given so that we might be good.  But believers see helping others as good only because it pleases God and not because it helps. The notion that we have free will for bettering ourselves and others does not fit the notion of a God who deserves and must get all our love.  And you could help suffering people if you hate them or do not care about them when your goal is just to please God.  God belief gives you a motive not to help them but to use their plight to please God.  You may not even realise you detest them and remember religion does condone hate or indifference to others as long as you don't deliberately have them.


Believers say thirdly that because God gave us free will to help and because he is with us he can ensure our efforts bring fruit even if we do not know how.  If sufficient good comes out of evil in time when God works on it then God is bringing the good out in spite of the evil and in psite of what the free agents who did the wrong want. So why not stopthe evil in the first place if he has that much disrespect for free will? If good can come from evil that does not justify totally soul breaking suffering such as depression or exteme torture.
There is only free will to atempt a permianet evil but no free will to really get it. This makes free will only about inention! The only reason tehn some bad results follow the inetnion is so that you can feel more drawn to the bad intentions.

It is said, "To believe that we don’t have free will is to deny that we have any value. You can’t feel good about yourself if you truly believe your good works are just the product of programming not your own free agency. If you feel good about yourself then you believe in free will and can use your free will better for good. We need to believe in free will." What planet are some philosophers on? We don't get motivated to help others by our belief in free will. We help them for we feel happy enough to share our happiness with them and bring them into it.
The free will defence supporters argue that dedicating our freedom to God will naturally lead to greater concern for the suffering and the poor. But notice how it treats concern for others as a side-effect and not as the purpose.
The purpose is making goodness our own in order to please God so others have to suffer so that we might help them. We use helping others as a means of making ourselves holy and good. It is about pleasing God not people even if people are pleased.
The truly good person helps others not that he or she might be good but for their own sake.
Faith in God leads to hypocrisy not goodness. It leads to forged goodness not goodness.
Human acts and choices are not between good and evil but between one level of good and another level. We only do what we call evil when we are attracted by some good. There is no such thing as an evil person. The person simply has chosen the wrong kind of good. Good, like what we call evil, often looks ugly - think of the dentist! We must see ourselves not as bad but as people with an amazing potential for good. That makes us positive and confident which is essential for living a good life. It follows that belief in free will even if it makes us reasonably good does not necessarily drive us to adore and serve the poor.
It is obvious that a person who does not believe in God can still be good. The notion that God alone matters means that you must fuse good with God and treat them as the same. Thus you can be blamed for being good without God. It is the worst imaginable sin. It is disguising sin as virtue and making sin supremely attractive. If God alone matters then the worst sin is holding that good matters and God does not.
Even if God and goodness can be fused, the fact is that if you had to choose one of them you would be expected to choose God. Thus the notion of giving God all your heart and that it is better to be destroyed than to fail God says your heart must be open to rejecting good for God which means you are justified in becoming evil for God when there is no choice.