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Religion blames us not God for evil for God is said to be all-good and all-powerful. It says he gave us the gift of free will and we abused it. This idea supposes that God gave us the power to go against him.
The existence of free will can be undeniably refuted. To be responsible for an action, I have to know what I am doing the very moment I am doing it. But I can only concentrate on one thing at a time. The moment I will something it is one thought in my mind that makes me do it. I am not conscious of my motives so I do not know what I am doing. I cannot be responsible for what I do therefore determinism is true.

Everyone who has examined their conscience is aware of this truth that there is no free will because that job requires examination of whether or not you were conscious of what you were doing the moment you acted badly. Those who contradict the determinist need to learn about right and wrong.

Free will is one hundred percent disproved. There is no question about it.

Read the proofs against free will and about how dangerous a doctrine it is in my other pages.
Some argue, "God makes and causes all that makes us free therefore God causes our decisions so they are really his decisions." But it is possible to imagine God creating something that behaves freely and only if you assume that freedom is a concept that makes sense. He gives it all it has including the power to be free but he does not make its decisions for it. He is creating the choice but he is not making it. Suppose there were no God and there was just matter would it follow from the fact that we are material beings that if we are free that matter makes the choices? No way. So there is no problem with God making us free if freedom is possible.

The objection has value of a different kind. For us to be free God must let us go. He has to withhold his omnipotence. He gives us the power to create the choice from nothing. This is open to the same absurdity there is as having God make things from nothing. God is supposed to be infinite in power when he can bring something out of nothing for the distance between something and nothing is endless. So there is no power outside God. But yet the universe is not made from God or his power so we must ask what God had to do with producing it. If it is not made of anything then there is power outside God which contradicts his alleged infinity. And if we can create from nothing every one of us is as much a God as God which is also absurd and we are that powerful then surely we could have created all things.

It is certain that God cannot program us to do what is good of our own free will. That would be forcing us to be good. All he can do is put us in an environment in which we will be reluctant to do evil because of our free will. For example, he could stop us thinking of the things that are likely to lead us to sin. He accepts the good works we do without thinking of sin and without remembering it exists as meritorious so he can reward us if we don't think of sin at all.

John Hick claimed that a flawless person like Adam could not have used his free will to rebel (Evil and the God of Love, page 75). He believed that a being knowing what good was could not prefer wrongdoing and misery to it and so would not choose it. It is replied that Adam's choice was not between good and evil for he had no motive. It was something like the choice between two equally attractive friends. You have no motive to choose one but you do. Adam's choice was alleged to be between himself and God (page 66-69, Arguing with God, Hugh Silvester, IVP, 1971). This solution is wrong because you do have a reason for picking one of the friends. The motive is, "I have to pick one so I choose you." It was the same with Adam and it is impossible to see how anybody could sin when they feel that evil is just as good as good and one of these has to be picked.

In a Christian book we read that "all theories of the will that appeal to motive tend to destroy the notion of freedom" for "to suggest that the motive somehow moves (as the etymology suggests) the agent to action denies that he is active; he is not active, he is passive following his genes and environment" (page 66-67, Arguing with God, Hugh Sylvester, IVP 1971). Let them err and destroy their doctrine of freedom if they want for we know motives do move us.

Hick claimed that we cannot be free when God knows how we will act in the future. This is correct because if I know what Jack the Ripper did and my memory is wiped and I go back and become the Ripper through a time machine then clearly I will do what I knew before. Something is causing what I knew and what I did to be exactly the same. Knowing is not causing for us but in issues to do with God it is different.
God rapes when a man rapes. We do evil because of God more than ourselves. Some would say we do evil solely because God decides we must.
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