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The Christian Scriptures Deny that Jesus Christ is God
"As to the Christian system of faith, it appears to me as a species of atheism ; a sort of religious denial of God.

It professes to believe in a man rather than in God." Thomas Paine. My comment: that is certainly true in practice!
Read this site for a Christian refutation of the idea that the Bible holds that Jesus is God http://www.christadelphia.org/wrested1.htm
The purpose of this book is to reveal that the doctrine that Jesus is God is a fiction. Jesus was not God and the New Testament does not actually say he is God. When it doesn’t say it and especially since it denies it, we can be confident that Jesus is not God for it is the only source we have that is close to Jesus assuming he lived.
The non-divinity of Jesus is a wonderful tool for making Christianity collapse and should be employed towards that noble end. It also shows that Christianity has no business looking down its nose at idolatry for it is the biggest offender against God’s ban on idolatry. The Church may argue that if it is wrong about Jesus being God it means well and it is God not Jesus it means to worship for it means to worship Jesus only if he is God. So the error is not in who God is but what God has done or not done. But the Bible rejects this logic for idolaters want their worship of idols to go to the true God if they are wrong and still God says he hates idolatry and rejects the worship of them. The heathen believe that God has broken up into a pile of gods who live in idols and the Church does not say their error is in what God has done and not in what and who God is. St Paul said that the demons take the worship offered to idols. The logic of the Church would imply that if Jesus is not God and you feel more attracted to God by believing that he is then it is best to worship Jesus as God. It would be an argument for idolatry. It would be saying the Bible is wrong to condemn this sin.

The Ebionites and many sects rooted in the first century denied that Jesus was really God. If you read The Early Church, Paul of Samosata who was bishop of Antioch and was appointed in 260 AD (page 114), Origen who died about 254 AD (page 105) and Justin Martyr (page 86) of the mid second century, were major Christian theologians who did not agree that the Bible should be interpreted to mean that Jesus was literally Yahweh God.
The Christians fabricate Bible evidence that Jesus is God.
A prophecy in Isaiah that isn’t even about Jesus is thought to be predicting Jesus’ divinity in saying he shall be called Mighty God. But it only says he will be called it.
They say Jesus said he knows all that God knows when he only said that nobody knows God but the Son and God knows the Son.
They say God called Jesus the Kyrios his own name. But God gives divine titles to men in the Old Testament as honorific titles. In Genesis 5, the birth of a man called Mahalalel is mentioned. Mahalalel means the Blessed God.
The Prophet Micah predicted a ruler whose activity and origin are from all eternity. This could be a poetic way of saying that this man was special. He more than any other man was the work of God and eternity is sometimes a synonym for God. Christians assume it’s saying the ruler never had an origin and only God has no origin so the ruler is God. But it does say he had an origin.
They say that Paul said that though Jesus was in the form of God he didn’t cling to equality with God but became a slave. Jesus was in the likeness of God like a mirror reflecting and taking in the glory of God. He didn’t cling to equality with God. In other words, rather than wanting to be God or equal to God or like God he chose to be a slave. None of this indicates that Jesus was God or entitled to seek equality with God, it only says that he didn’t seek it.
The angel in Revelation forbade John from worshipping him but Jesus accepted worship so Christians say that Jesus must be more than an angel and must be God. The angel’s job was to be a messenger of God not to answer prayers and to be worshipped. He doesn’t say he shouldn’t be worshipped but just that now isn’t the time. The angel says worship God only meaning that he was only God’s messenger and it was God who should get all the honour for it was God who was really doing the work. And besides we are never told that Jesus got the worship due to God. Kings were worshipped in a sense. Nothing in the episode defends the Christian belief in a divine Christ.
Christians say that when Jesus was worshipped that he never told the worshipper they were wrong. First of all, the gospels make it clear we must worship God only. So they didn’t need to tell us if Jesus did correct these people. Second, Jesus was merely called a good teacher and he told the man off for saying that. Third, we read of people making assumptions and Jesus despairingly not bothering to waste time trying to correct them.
Let us now comb the Bible to see if Jesus thought he was God the Son, God almighty. The Gospel of John is dealt with in my book John Gospel Denies Jesus is God. In brief, that gospel says that Jesus was the incarnation of the Word, the message of God and God is his message. But that is not the same as saying that he is God. A saint who is not God can be the incarnation of the love of God even though God is said in Christian belief to be love itself. When Jesus said that before Abraham was I am and I am being the name of God in the Old Testament he didn’t say he meant it in the sense that God meant it. Jesus said that he and the Father are one but that could be a reference to his being the manifestation of the Father for he said he is the image of the Father so that he who sees him sees the Father. He said he wanted his followers to be one in the same way he and the Father are one indicting that he didn’t mean that he was one nature with the Father. Jesus denied he was God when he said his teaching was not his own but the teaching of the Father.
Christians say that he means his teaching is not of human origin but divine. He was saying his teaching was not from himself as man but himself as God. So they turn it into a declaration that Jesus was God! But if you mean that you would say that. You would not use cryptic clues like, “my teaching is not my own for it is God’s”. To say my teaching is not mine but God’s is to deny that you are God. Christians have to obscure their doctrine that Jesus was fully human and fully divine and yet one person so that my referred to his personhood which was both human and divine and pretend that he was like a pantomime horse half human and half divine and was referring only to his man side.
Nothing in the gospels or New Testament or anywhere in the Bible declares Jesus to have been God.

The Bible itself proves that the doctrine of a divine Christ was not in the original Christian faith but was cooked up later on. This is not surprising when Jesus did a lot of wrong things. Read my Sinner of God. It says he was a Zealot so unlike a god he had to use force to achieve his aims. Read my Jesus the Zealot.
Mark the first gospel gives no hint that Jesus was anything other than God's right hand man but an ordinary man nonetheless. It is the later gospels that try to turn him into something like a deity. In Mark, Jesus never calls God Father or Daddy. Yet the doctrine that God is daddy is supposed to be fundamental. Its absence from the gospel is telling.

Jesus based all his authority on the Law and the Prophets. He even said that we should believe in his resurrection because of the prophets saying it would happen and not even because witnesses were saying he rose – the witnesses are worthless without the prophecies. How much credulous junk can one take? Anyway, it is impossible to believe that Jesus could have thought he was God and superior to the prophets when he did that. He did say he was wiser than Solomon but maybe that was because Solomon didn’t have as much scripture. He did say he was greater than Jonah but Jonah called a city to repentance and Jesus called more than that.

If it is true as a growing number of orthodox Christians are coming to believe that the Bible teaches that death is the complete cessation of existence then it follows that the Christadelphians, Jehovah’s Witnesses and Dawn Bible Students are right to say that Jesus could not be God for God could not die. It would mean that Jesus would exist as God when his body and spirit were dead.

In Matthew and Luke, Jesus goes into the wilderness to fast for forty days. This was after his baptism and before his ministry. It was a spiritual preparation for that ministry. He was going to die for sinners so he had no need to fast for them. God does not need retreats. It is significant that the gospel that exalts Jesus the most, John, omits the temptations and fasting.

In Mark 10, James and John asked Jesus to seat them on each side of him when his kingdom comes. Jesus replied that these seats were not his to give but were for those they had been preserved for. Dubiously, Christians interpret this to mean that the seats aren’t Jesus’ to give for they have already been given away. But you don’t say anything is not yours to bestow when you mean it has already been allocated. The verse means that Jesus can’t interfere with God’s decisions which means he cannot be God. The interpretation has it that only those who have been promised the seats can permit others to take them. God could change this if he wishes and he is not going to. Jesus was not God for he makes it clear he cannot think of changing. The people who will get the seats will be completely subject to God and would give up the seats to James and John if God wanted them to. This means that the seats must really be God’s to give. Jesus is denying that he is God for if the seats are God’s to give and not his then he cannot be the same being as God.
They claim that Jesus can’t give them away for Jesus is God and God can give them to whomsoever he wishes. So Jesus as man cannot give them away but as God he can. This splits Jesus up into two persons.
Jesus said that it was far worse to blaspheme God the Holy Spirit than to blaspheme him (Matthew 12). If he had been God they would be equally bad. Christians say that they are equally bad but that if one insults Jesus not realising that he is God then it is not as bad. This is why they think Jesus said that insulting the spirit was unpardonable but insulting him was forgivable. This interpretation is wrong or Jesus never said that he meant those who insulted the Son of Man in ignorance. Nobody says, “There is mercy for those who offend me but none for those who offend God,” unless they meant the same thing by “offend”. Jesus denied he was God or equal to the Holy Spirit.

Jesus said he did not know when the second coming would happen (Mark 13:32). Some argue that know denotes make known not knows (page 41, Understanding the Cults).

But even then it is saying that the Son can’t make it known for it is up to the Father which makes the Son less than God. The Church says that we cannot understand how Jesus could have been God and not know everything. We cannot simply because it makes no sense. To be a person one must first have consciousness. If Jesus did not know what God knows then they had two separate consciousness and accordingly must have been two separate persons.

Mark 12:29-34 has Jesus telling a Jewish scribe that he is not far from the kingdom of God because he told Jesus that he believed that God is one and must be loved above all things and the neighbour must be loved for God’s benefit. By kingdom of God, Jesus meant his own reign under God. If Jesus had been God he would not have told the man he was close to this kingdom when the man did not believe that about Jesus and had stated that God was one meaning literally one person who was not incarnate in Jesus. The man just recited the main Jewish beliefs which shows that Jesus wanted to create a kingdom based on the same things.

In Luke 23:28, Jesus tells the women of Jerusalem not to weep for him but themselves. God is infinitely valuable and persons are not so God would not have told the women of Jerusalem to weep for themselves instead of God incarnate going to the cross.

Acts 2:36 says that God made Jesus Lord. If Jesus were God he could not be made Lord.

Acts 5:30-31 says that at the resurrection Jesus was exalted to be Prince and Saviour. He would have been prince and saviour before that unless he was an ordinary man who had to pass God’s test to become Messiah and saviour. Had the author believed Jesus was God he would have been more careful with this material in case the simple readers would have been misled. It means exactly what it says.

Paul wrote that some day, the last day, Jesus would hand over the kingdom to God and then be subject to God himself (1 Corinthians 15:24, 28). This proves that he thought that though Jesus is sinless he isn’t always doing what God wants him to do. He errs. The day will come when God magically enables him to suit himself exactly so that God will be all in all. If Jesus were God he could not go wrong for it is impossible for two conflicting minds to be one mind, one being. Paul gave us the first existing Christian writings so the Church that sprang up after Christ did not adore him as God.

Paul declared that Jesus was made the Son of God by his resurrection (Romans 1:4). Here, the Son of God means the one nearest and next to God. If Jesus was God then he was always the Son of God. Paul is saying that Jesus was not God the Son. Jesus could not have been God if he was not always the Son of God as in chief man.
Paul stated that God knew how much he loved the Philippians (read chapter 1) and he told them that he loves them AS Jesus Christ loves them. Clearly he is saying that Jesus loves them as a good man like himself does. If Jesus is God his love will be perfect and nobody could say they love others as he loves them. The Catholic answer is that after saying that Paul tells them Jesus will work in them to make them perfect for God. Thus they argue that Paul is clarifying that his love is not as perfect as Jesus'. But Paul sees Jesus as God's instrument thus Jesus could still be imperfect. If he produces perfection it is down to God. The Catholic answer is to be rejected as it is reading later Catholic doctrine into old documents. That is anachronistic.

Paul said that there could be no salvation for forgiveness without the death of Jesus. He meant that it causes it in some way. He must have thought that it earns it. If Jesus were God then one good deed would suffice to make up for an infinity of sins because everything God does is infinitely valuable. The death of Jesus would then be an act of insane bravado and needless in spiritual terms.
In Romans 8:31-34 we read that with God on the side of the followers of Christ nobody can be against them. Since God gave up his own Son for them they can be sure that he will not refuse them anything its lawful for him to give. Then it asks rhetorically if anyone could accuse those that God has chosen? Could anybody condemn a person when God acquits them? Could the Messiah Jesus condemn? No for he not only died for the believers but rose from the dead and there at the right hand of God he stands and pleads for them.
Study it carefully. If Jesus is God it would be absurd to ask if he can condemn those who God has forgiven. It only makes sense if he is a separate person and entity from God.
And also, the reason Christ doesn’t condemn is because he died for sinners and rose again and intercedes now. It’s not because he was God the person who did the acquitting. Christ could die for sinners and still condemn them. He can’t intercede for sinners unless he sees them and judges them as sinners first which illustrates this point. It’s Jesus’ actions that Paul uses as evidence that he treats us as acquitted not his nature. This is very important. Paul believed as a Jew that God forgave sins before Christ came. The Jews didn’t have any belief in a Jesus dying and rising to save them. Paul says that if God acquits a person even Jesus cannot condemn them afterwards so God could acquit in principle without Jesus. And we know Jesus cannot condemn by his actions of love for sinners. So God acquits just because God is nice and Jesus acquits because he paid for sins. Clearly the two are separate beings and people.
Another observation is that if Jesus dying for us and rising and praying for us proves he considers us acquitted then Jesus provided substitutionary atonement. In other words he obeyed the demands of God’s law for us so that God could overlook our UNREPENTED and our repented sins and blame him for them instead. We know this because if Jesus only gave the benefits to repented sin as the Catholic Church teaches then we have no reason to think that Jesus dying and rising and praying proves that he doesn’t condemn us for he could be condemning us for our unrepented sin and refusing his atonement to us. The chapter has the idea of salvation by faith without any good works in mind. It’s pure Protestantism.
And when Christ is at God’s right hand as if he is second in command that shows he is not God. If Christ was God he would not be at God’s right hand of his throne but on the throne. The Church says that as man Jesus is at God’s right hand but as God he is on the throne. This is nonsense for since Jesus as man is in perfect synchronicity with his divine nature and mind and is God and man in one person there is no way Jesus can be in anyway inferior to God so that as man he is seated at the right hand of God.    

The idea of God acquitting and Jesus praying for us to keep us acquitted shows that God and Jesus cannot be the same being for you have one disagreeing with the other. Jesus can’t ask God to have mercy on us unless he thinks he knows better than God and God should have mercy. He is correcting the all-knowing God!
According to Hebrews, Jesus was made lower than the angels (2:9). Christians say that “this means he was made man and that the angels are stronger than man. It does not mean that he had a lower rank than them for he was really the boss.” But this makes the verse say he only seemed lower!

If Jesus was God then he was stronger for the very power of the angels comes from God who is the supreme power so theirs is second-hand power.
If Jesus had miracle powers, he had something the angels didn’t have even if it was second hand power from God.
So for Jesus to be lower than the angels he had to have no miracle powers and he certainly could not be God.
Hebrews never attributes miracles to Jesus. If you believe in the Bible you have to believe that Jesus did them.
The verse proves that Jesus was not God. The context tells us that the Son of Man has everything in subjection to himself. The verse means that Jesus abandoned his powers. God can’t abandon his powers and is higher than the angels despite how low he looks and if he does not use all his powers. Hebrews 2 confutes the doctrine of the deity of Christ.
Hebrews 4 tells us that in Jesus we have the supreme high priest who has gone through to the highest heaven and therefore we must never let go of the faith we have professed and he felt our weaknesses. That denies that Jesus is God. How? If Jesus were God he would be our helper even if he never went up bodily to Heaven for his divine side is still there in Heaven. But this Jesus needed to be saved himself before he could help us. It is a silly doctrine but nonetheless it shows that Hebrews is incompatible with a divine Christ.

Hebrews 5:1-6 tells us that every high priest has been taken out of mankind to act for men in their relationship with God and to offer gifts and sacrifices for sins. So he can sympathise with those he acts for because like them he suffers from ignorance and weakness. Because of his ignorance and weakness he has to make sacrifices for his sins as well as those of others. It then goes on to say that no priest takes this honour to himself but has to be called by God and even Jesus was no exception. Jesus then could not have been God. If he was a man then he had to have been a priest automatically for he would naturally offer his sufferings and works as a man to God.
Hebrews 5:5 says that even Jesus Christ did not take to himself the office of high priest but received it from God when he said to him that he was his son and he had begotten him that day. If Jesus was God then his good works as a man would have had great merit and so he would have been a priest from the first day of his existence as a man. The whole point about his priesthood was that he could offer himself in all his works and his life and death to God in love. To say that the God-man in becoming a man did not automatically and thereby take to himself the office of high priest is ludicrous. Of course he would have just by becoming man. Only if Jesus was an angel who became man could God then make him a priest by adopting him as his son. Now that Jesus is so valuable to God and so loved by him Jesus is able to be a priest and his works meritorious for sinners. Hebrews then says (5:8,9,10) that Jesus learned obedience to God through suffering. God is going to obey God and that is that and so he cannot learn obedience unless he disobeys meaning Jesus did sin and since God being perfect cannot sin it means that Jesus was not God. Hebrews then states that when Jesus was perfected he became the source of salvation and was designated by God as high priest according to the Melchizidek order. Putting two and two together Jesus became the saviour, the son and the priest when he was suffering on the cross. All of these deny that Jesus was God for God made man would have to be inevitably a priest, saviour and Son of God.
You might object that a child can learn obedience without ever disobeying. But is such obedience really impressive? The child never knew any different. To have real obedience you must be able to do wrong and have done so.
Hebrews says that Jesus did not enter any earthly sanctuary to save us as our priest but the very presence of God himself. You cannot enter God's presence if you are God.
1 Corinthians 11:3 says that man is woman’s boss like God is Christ’s. If Jesus were God he could not have a head. A head is the person who runs your life or to whom you must refer to for permission before you do anything you think he might not want you to do. If Jesus were God he ran his own. If God and Jesus are just pretending then they need mental treatment. If Jesus was God then he could not sin and could have had no head to tell him to do right. Robots that have to do what you want don’t need a boss. Paul is saying that Jesus can sin though he does not and perhaps never will.

After condemning human wisdom and recommending the foolishness of Christianity, Paul forbade Christians to be proud of anything human (1 Corinthians 3:21). His Jesus was an ordinary man until he was turned into something new and better at his resurrection which made him the Son of God. He condemns the pre-resurrection Jesus and he says he was sinless when he died and is silent on whether or not this means he was always impeccable. His Jesus was not God. (Paul meant his doctrine that his foolishness must be preferred because he admitted and all know that the doctrine of the cross of Christ is absurd to our minds.)

Revelation 1:1 says that God gave the revelations in that book to Jesus to be revealed to the author through an angel. If Jesus were God he would not have needed to receive the revelations himself. Christians explain that Jesus as man had to receive the knowledge just like God loading the knowledge from the divinity into the humanity. It is hard to believe that such an unsophisticated Church and revelation writer would have had such an advanced theological insight and been willing to hint at it to the confusion of the people. Moreover, Jesus did not need to be given the revelation when God could have given the revelation to the angel for him to give it to John. Jesus must have got the revelation because he wanted to know it.

The doctrine of a divine Christ is a heresy.
In God and the Human Condition we read, “What was in his [Paul’s] mind when he called the First Person God and the Second Lord, Kyrios? What was the force of Kyrios? To begin with, it is a common noun in Greek, meaning Master, a courtesy term to be used of anyone having authority – as we find it used of Christ in the Gospel by those who were not his disciples. But it has a religious use as well. When a century before Christ, the Jews translated the Old Testament into Greek, they translated the divine Name, Yahweh, as Kyrios, Lord, which was what the pagans would have used for one of their own gods. To a Greek-speaking Jew, Kyrios was the God of the Old Testament. It seems that in the century before Christ and the century after, the rabbis used the word Adonai, Lord, for God. In the Acts of the Apostles, by Dr Arendzen’s count, Kyrios is used 110 times, one third of them in speaking of God, one third of Christ” (page 259).

It looks as if you are called Kyrios in a religious sense then it invariably means you are called God. But think again. Kyrios was used a third of the times in reference to beings who were not God.
The Christians did some bold things. They used the name of God in worship and they called him Abba - Daddy. They broke away from some Jewish prejudices that considered these things to be very irreverent. Thus even if Kyrios was the title for God they could have used it for Jesus. And why not for it only meant Lord. The meanings of words change easily.
Some Jews and the Christians who ignored superstitious Jewish tradition would have called Jesus Kyrios in the religious sense without meaning that he is God. The restriction of Kyrios to God in the religious understanding could have been scrapped. The reason was that Jesus habitually called Lord or Master in Aramaic and it translated into Greek as Kyrios for it was the word for a religious master.
Nobody is able to give us a Bible text saying that only God can be called Kyrios.

Acts gives us an important clue regarding whether or not Jesus being Kyrios must mean that Jesus is God. When Paul had his vision on the way to Damascus and the voice spoke to him he said, “Tell me who you are, Lord”.
If he thought it was God then Acts us only telling us that he called the entity Lord and does not say that he was right to. The episode does not prove Paul called Jesus God's name.
If, which is more likely, he knew it was not God but Jesus then his use of the word Kyrios does not mean that he believed Jesus to be divine. Paul knew the vision could be of an evil spirit for it had not even spoken much to him and still he called it Kyrios meaning that Kyrios is not God. Paul must have known it was Jesus because the vision told him he was persecuting him. Paul was setting out to destroy the name of Jesus of Nazareth - Acts 9:1, 22:4, 26:9. Strangely he was not worried about the Church calling Jesus Lord. It is like it was just a title and not a declaration that Jesus was God.
Jesus told Paul then he was kicking against the goad. That is a way of saying Paul was already drawn to Jesus but was resisting it by persecuting Jesus' followers. This conversion was not the sudden conversion it is made out to be.

Jesus proclaimed that the world would see no sign from him but the sign of Jonah - the resurrection. The gospels say he did other signs. Theologians say that everything Jesus did was a sign but the essential sign was his resurrection from the dead which proved that he was sent by God and was the saviour. That is how they sort out the conflict. Jesus warned of false miracles and would have said that his miracles though signs were not enough. Jesus was called Lord by his disciples several times before he died and rose again. Since he hadn't yet proven that he was Lord, this title does not mean he was being called God in the literal sense. Jesus once said that the law called the hearers of God's word gods. So he could have been called Lord or even God meaning only that he was very close to God and the mouthpiece of God.
Jesus is the go-between between man and God and gave the law (Galatians 3:19-20). Paul says that Jesus being the go-between implies that there is more than one party and God is one. He implies that as God is one the other party must be man. This does not fit the notion of God being more than one person. It speaks of God as being one person.
Paul wrote in his epistle to the Philippians chapter 2 that believers must do nothing out of selfish ambition but each one must humbly think of everybody else as better than him or her. He declared that each one must look to the interests of others and not their own see verse 2:4 in the Jerusalem Bible. It is not translated properly in the treacherous New International Version. He then declared that rather than thinking of oneself first and not others first we must have the attitude of Christ Jesus. He goes on to say that though Christ Jesus was in the form of God, he did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped or taken. He emptied himself taking the form of a servant being born in the likeness of men. And being found in human form, he was obedient unto death on a cross and God raised him high and gave him the name that is above all names. Now at the name of Jesus everything that exists should confess that he is Lord and bow. This exaltation of Jesus would happen to the glory of God the Father.
This is supposed to say that Jesus was God. Then why does Paul say he was in the form of God and not simply say he was God?
God commanded in the Old and New Testaments that he is to be loved with all our hearts and powers. He demands to be worshipped. Jesus could not be an example of sacrificing himself for others and putting them first if he was God. God simply cannot put others first for he has to put himself first too for he is goodness itself.
Paul says Jesus emptied himself to take the form of a servant or slave. If you give away all your wealth, and become a servant you could be said to be taking the form of a servant. If you live as a slave but have fabulous wealth that you simply don't use then how could you be said to be taking the form of a servant? You would be playacting. You may pretend to be an accountant and be an impersonator of the accountant but you are not an accountant. Jesus then to be a real servant would need to stop being God, need to stop being in control of the universe. This is impossible and Paul recognised that it would be impossible so if Jesus really emptied himself he was not God.
The believers say that Paul said that though Jesus was in the form of God, he didn’t cling to equality with God but became a slave. How then was Jesus equal to God if he was not God? Jesus was in the likeness of God like a mirror reflecting and taking in the glory of God. He didn’t cling to equality with God. In other words, rather than wanting to be God or equal to God or like God he chose to be a slave. None of this indicates that Jesus was God or entitled to seek equality with God, it only says that he didn’t seek it.
God raised Jesus high and gave him the name which is above all names. Name means authority. Christians say this name is Lord or Kyrios. God is called Lord and Kyrios in the New Testament. Is Jesus God? But if Jesus was God, even if he emptied himself of power, he was still God. He couldn't get the authority as God back for he had never lost it. To say Kyrios here means Jesus is God is really to voice the absurd idea that Jesus only became God at his resurrection.
But it is entirely possible that the man only became known as Jesus at his resurrection. That was when he got his name. Jesus means God saves. So saviour then would be the name above all names.
Whatever name or authority Jesus got, he got it according to Paul only for the sake of God's glory. So ultimately the name or authority he got though it is the highest is not as high as God's. If Jesus only became Jesus then the gospels are packs of lies for having Jesus spoken of as Jesus and saviour before his resurrection.
Even if Philippians did say that Jesus was God we would be entitled to not take it seriously when Jesus behaved in such a way as to imply that you should think of others and not yourself. If you are not worth thinking about how could others be worth thinking about? See the hypocrisy? See the contradiction?

Study Matthew 28:18. Jesus declares that he has all power in Heaven and earth. But we read that he could do no great work in Nazareth except cure a few sick people (Mark 6:5). Haley says that this does not challenge the awesome infinite power of Jesus but only says that he could not do miracles among those without faith only among some believers. This is a lie for even Mark has Jesus doing miracles among people who were insane and did not believe in him and he had to do his first miracles among unbelievers to get believers. He appeared to unbelievers following his resurrection. It would be dangerous and fascist and unbiblical to say that he could not cure unbelievers. If Jesus did miracles for the believers then he did unnecessary ones for miracles are for causing faith and they have got it unless he wanted to deepen their faith. The only reasons Jesus could have for doing no miracles before unbelievers is that it would be forcing them to believe or that they will mock. Miracles should be done before unbelievers. But if the forcing excuse is true then he can’t do them before believers either for it forces them to stay believing and/or believe more. And if the mocking is inevitable and will only advertise the miracle for the people will notice the cure. But the person might change and might not mock for he knows he will only make a fool of himself. The verse plainly suggests that Jesus wanted to do miracles but could not when we know the author through that unbelief made no difference. If the lack of faith in others was stopping Jesus he could have put the others in the presence of believers for he had plenty following him about. He did not do this so it was impotence that was his obstacle. Proving this, Matthew and Luke who had a higher estimate of Jesus’ superhuman powers dropped the verse.

Jesus was not omnipotent and so was not God. He was not the future Isaiah called Mighty God if that title is to be taken literally. And Christians take it that way and say it refers to Jesus.


In John 9:39, Jesus says he came into the world to judge it. Elsewhere, we read the contrary. See John 12:47.

Haley “explains” that Jesus came into the world to judge it in the sense of determining the fate of mankind, be to reward or punishment, by preaching his saving gospel and that is what John 9.39 means. Jesus does not judge the world now in the sense of holding a trial to work out the due punishment or blessing (page 120) so that solves John 12.47. The solution is that he has different types of judging in mind.
But if so, then 9:39 has nothing judicial – it is just people being sent on their fate to everlasting life or everlasting condemnation according to how they respond to the gospel. That is not judging. That is people deciding their own fate. The verse must speak of real judging and be in contradiction of John 12:47.
Both verses speak in the context of the preaching of the gospel. So there is a contradiction. They speak of people being judged by the gospel.
And also, would Jesus really mean that if anybody does not believe him he will not put him on trial the judicial way when it is plain that he has not tried anybody and also that when he claimed to be the Son of God he would not need to? Of course not!
John 12 verse 48 says his teaching will judge in the judicial way. So he does not mean judge in the 9:39 verse the way Haley says. His teaching passes judicial sentence. So the contradiction stands.
This is a very serious contradiction. If Jesus was not the judge he couldn’t have been God for God is the judge.
So John 12.47 says that Jesus didn’t come into the world to judge the world judicially. But if Jesus were God he would have judged the world judicially even before he came into the world. God is outside time.
The Bible says that the kingdom of Jesus will last forever (Daniel 7:14; Luke 1:23; Hebrews 1:8). Paul said that Jesus’ kingdom will end and he reigns only until he triumphs over his enemies (1 Corinthians 15:24-28).

Haley (page 139) offers several solutions to the contradiction.
a) Jesus will not need to be king anymore when he has made us all perfect for perfect beings don’t need a ruler. If so then the prophecies promise that we will never be sinless for they say he will reign forever.

b) Paul means that Jesus will stop reigning as mediator and start reigning as God. Paul never said that he meant the mediator reign would cease. Jesus reigned as God if he was God and even if he was mediator. When Jesus is ruling to get rid of his enemies mediation is the last thing on his mind.

c) Jesus’ kingdom has two departments, the kingdom over the saints and the kingdom over the enemies. Paul meant that the latter would end. But Paul did not say he will reign over his enemies until he ends the reign. He meant the whole kingdom.

d) The end of the kingdom is the kingdom in the world. This will be ended merely by transferring the domain to the land of Heaven. But that is not ending the kingdom but changing it. And Paul did not say that he meant the earthy kingdom alone so he also meant the Heavenly one. Jesus could not reign over earth until he destroys all his enemies for you do not rule those who loathe and ignore your authority.

God incarnate cannot stop being ruler for he is God the Ruler. Jesus was not God.

Jesus Christ was not God even if he claimed to be God. We have no evidence whatsoever that he made this claim. The primitive Christians didn’t believe he was God and it was an invention of the apostate Church.  With man-gods, if they deny they are divine it is taken as confirmation that they are and if they affirm it that is taken as confirmation as well.  Jesus himself did not stay unscathed from that problem.

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Kevin Quick discusses the Jehovah’s Witnesses claim that the Bible never says that Jesus is God

Father and/or Son by H Wayne Hamburger